Spiritually Dry? Finding God Again as a Busy Mom, with Lynn Jackson

Blog by: Erika Diaz

Candace Nassar (00:00)

Lynn, thank you for joining me today. Your story touches on something so many of us have walked through, feeling spiritually dry, overwhelmed, or unsure how to reconnect with God. And I am grateful to get to talk to you about it today. So welcome.

Lynn Jackson (00:18)

I am so happy to be here. Thank you, Candice, for the invitation. Love to encourage and challenge women at the same time, especially in the weary places. Especially in the weary places.

Candace Nassar (00:26)

Mmm, I love that.

Candace Nassar (00:30)

So good, so needed, absolutely needed. Okay, so why don’t you tell us just a little bit about yourself so our listeners can get to know you and maybe share what one or two things God is doing in this season of your life.

Lynn Jackson (00:44)

Okay, my husband and I just celebrated 40 years of marriage and 40 years of full-time ministry. So we started three days after our honeymoon. yep, so we had a big celebration this past summer and we are so blessed. We have four adult children, three married-ins and eight grandchildren who all live within an hour of us.

Candace Nassar (00:51)

Wow.

Candace Nassar (01:09)

Such a blessing.

Lynn Jackson (01:10)

And we are so thankful. We are so thankful. And this season of my life, family is big. And my husband and I have a ministry. We minister to those who are in ministry. yes, it’s called Thrive Leadership Foundation. So that’s our focus. And I just have a love for women, especially women who are weary and discouraged and believers.

Candace Nassar (01:22)

Mmm.

Lynn Jackson (01:38)

I always thought I would be bringing people to Christ right and left and God continues to put just weary Christian women in front of me. So we’re very involved in our local church and in our ministry and in our family.

Candace Nassar (01:38)

Mm-hmm.

Candace Nassar (01:52)

Yeah, that’s so great. You and I met through a mutual friend and she met you at a women’s conference. I know you’re a speaker and so you have multiple layers in what you do. You also have a book out called The Recipe and that’s what we’re gonna talk a little bit about today. So I’m super excited to share that with our listeners. So you’ve talked about reaching a place of spiritual exhaustion. You talk about this in your book. 

You give us the story of how this book came about. You were raising and homeschooling four kids, supporting your husband in the pastorate. What was that season like and how did God meet you there?

Lynn Jackson (02:22)

Thank

Thank

Lynn Jackson (02:32)

It was very full, life was very full.

I wasn’t the typical pastor’s wife having my hand in every pot. My first ministry was my children and my husband. But my husband, and he shares this openly, he hit a place of burnout and there was nothing I could do for him. And I was in a place of just super overwhelmed and my prayer life, which I loved Jesus, I fell head over heels in love with him in my early 20s.

And here I am with a full family, full ministry, a husband and burnout, and my prayer life was numb. It was numb. Pastor’s wife prayer life was numb. And I was at this place of, God, you’re sovereign and you’re going to do what you want to do anyhow. And I used my prayers, tucking the kids in bed and at mealtimes. And it was to be an example to my kids, not out of hunger and passion to

Candace Nassar (03:18)

Hmm. Yeah.

Lynn Jackson (03:29)

you know have conversation with my Jesus

Candace Nassar (03:32)

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean we all start out this is what I love about your ministry is so many of us like you and I both came to Jesus as adults after some crazy dysfunctional childhood stuff and so we we fell in love with Jesus and we’re just all in right and so passionate and just ready to share it with the world and we go through that and then life just starts happening and happening and happening and that passion just kind of dies off unfortunately

Lynn Jackson (03:40)

Mm-hmm.

Lynn Jackson (03:45)

Yeah.

Candace Nassar (04:00)

And we allow that, right, if we’re not intentional. And so I love that you’re admitting that you got to that place and that your prayers were just, they were numb, that you were like, God, you’re gonna do what you’re gonna do. And a lot of us feel that way. So how did God meet you there?

Lynn Jackson (04:03)

Mm. Mm-hmm.

Lynn Jackson (04:07)

Yes.

Lynn Jackson (04:19)

Well, that’s where the recipe started to develop and I just started to dive into the Psalms and I stayed in the Psalms and I found that if I just read a few verses, I really got something to hold onto. Instead of just reading Psalm after Psalm after Psalm, looking for answers, looking for answers. And so I just started nibbling just a little bit and really looking for the character of God to be revealed to me in the Psalms.

And I wasn’t even looking for that, but that’s what the Holy Spirit did. Just brought out, oh God, you do hear your children. God, you are active. God, you are present. And it started to encourage me. It started to wake up my spirit. Yeah.

Candace Nassar (05:08)

Mm-hmm. Yeah, and connect. You were able to connect.

Lynn Jackson (05:12)

I was connecting with God versus praying so the kids would hear me pray as I tucked them into bed. I remember my one daughter saying, Mommy, I want to learn how to play the piano. Could we pray for a piano? And I thought, I’m not going to pray for that. What if God doesn’t bring it? Those are my, I’m a pastor’s wife. And I’m thinking, I’m afraid to ask God for that. I don’t want her to get disappointed. But don’t you know, we prayed for months, probably seven months, and somebody walked up to us.

Candace Nassar (05:30)

Hey

Lynn Jackson (05:42)

church and said, we’re moving, could your family use a piano? That was, that’s just called real life, my friend.

Candace Nassar (05:47)

That’s it. my gosh.

I love that so much. I’ve had stuff like that happen to me too. And we just sometimes don’t see God big enough. We don’t, yeah. And so what I love about, I mean, one of the things I’m thinking about is you’re tucking your kids in and you’re praying with them. So often we try to pour out as moms from an empty cup and we don’t take the time, right, to really get our cup filled.

Lynn Jackson (06:02)

We don’t see him period

Lynn Jackson (06:15)

Yep.

Candace Nassar (06:21)

And so I think that we see a lot of ministry workers and mature believers just get into those ruts, right? mean, why would you think, why do you think that happens?

Lynn Jackson (06:31)

I experienced it and the ministry that my husband and I are in right now, ministering to those in ministry, we see it over and over again. What happens, what happened to me and what I see happening to other people is you start, instead of pursuing, truly pursuing Jesus, we begin to pursue what we should be doing, what we think we should be, how we should.

be portraying Jesus to our children so that they will want Jesus. And then in ministry, we begin to pursue ministry more than we’re pursuing Jesus. But it’s so subtle.

It is so subtle, you don’t even know that you’re doing it. Like my husband will sit across the table from a pastor or I’ll be with the pastor’s wife and we’ll ask the question, what is your quiet time like? And often they’ll hold up and they’ll make a zero with their hands. It’s not happening. They’re in the word to prepare, so it’s like I’m in the word because I’m preparing. But that’s so different than being in the word to pursue your God versus, getting in there and preparing a meal for somebody else to eat.

Candace Nassar (07:39)

Yeah, and we’re gonna get into that. that’s really good. Before we dive in though, to some of the things from the book, I wanna just talk a little bit about when you, I don’t know if this was before or after you started the recipe, but when you went through that really hard season with your daughter’s diagnosis. Can you share some of that with us?

Lynn Jackson (07:59)

Yes, the recipe is what kept my head above water. The recipe during that time.

helped me to realize that God is, He is real, He is present, but He’s not only present, He’s active. And it was just being in the Word of God that helped me not become bitter and angry. Because this is a girl who got hit with systemic lupus at age 16. That usually doesn’t happen until you’re in your 40s. And to see your baby, I don’t care how old your children are, they’ll always be your babies.

Candace Nassar (08:34)

Mm-hmm.

Lynn Jackson (08:36)

suffer and it was like, she’s so innocent. I don’t understand. so just being in the Word helped me, helped me survive. It helped me lament. It helped me grieve.

Candace Nassar (08:49)

Mm-hmm.

Lynn Jackson (08:50)

and not slough it and just act like I thought I should be acting as a believer, but the word helped me grieve, it helped me hold God’s hand and sometimes really, really tight. Really, really tight. But that sounds so overwhelming. You you go through a crisis, you gotta be in the word. I hate to hear that for people who are so overwhelmed and just trying to survive and then they get piled with this guilt.

You have to be in the word. You’ve got to be in the word. Those are are just hurtful words sometimes to hear

Candace Nassar (09:25)

You know, well, I think it starts with exactly what you were talking about is the lamenting, right? And I love it in the recipe. You say for 30 to 45 minutes, I ranted and raved and stomped my feet. I got on my knees and cried out how much I hated this for her. I described to God in detail what she was enduring. And I told him how hard it must be for her. So that’s lamenting.

Lynn Jackson (09:57)

Yes.

Candace Nassar (09:51)

And that’s really, sometimes we can’t get into the Word because we’re holding and stuffing, right? And when you actually, poured out your heart like that, then you were able to start to hear from Him, right?

Lynn Jackson (09:57)

Thank you.

Lynn Jackson (10:04)

Yes, exactly, exactly. And what’s interesting is the word will help you lament. If you just take…

Candace Nassar (10:11)

Mm-hmm.

Lynn Jackson (10:13)

just a little bit at a time, it will help you lament. Like in Psalm 40, you know, it talks about being stuck in the mud and the mire. Mire is thick mud. And so that can even open up conversation with you, with God, look at the mud we’re in. We can’t find the right doctor. We are so stuck. And that opens a door for lament. I hate this for her.

I hate this. I’m so frustrated. And it helps you get that out. And knowing that he hears you, like that’s just cleansing. You may not get an answer, but tears are there for a purpose. And they’re cleansing. And they’re from God.

Candace Nassar (10:58)

And so what did God teach you then through that experience?

Lynn Jackson (11:03)

From being in the Word and just continually walking in circumstances that weren’t changing, I learned from God’s Word that He is present and reminded that we live in a broken world and that He hates it too.

You know, he doesn’t take pleasure in evil, God’s Word says. And so I just believe that he weeps with us. I learned that he’s very present and that he is an active God, even in midst of circumstances that aren’t changing. He’s an engaged father. He’s not a deadbeat dad. He is an engaged father.

Candace Nassar (11:39)

I love that. And it makes us want to pursue Him, right? When we know that. instead of turn away and feel, you know, we often want to do that in hard times, but when we can lean in is when He can really minister to us. So that’s beautiful. And I appreciate you sharing that. So one thing I love about your message in the recipe is the simplicity.

Lynn Jackson (11:44 )

get.

Candace Nassar (12:06)

and that’s, you know, so many of us today, mean, we’re busy people and, you know, the world and Satan want to keep us busy. But the simplicity of, of the recipe, you say spiritual growth doesn’t need to be overwhelming.

And, I really love that because sometimes we think we need to sit down and, you know, take a whole hour. I don’t have that kind of time. Right. But that’s not, that’s really not true. And, and you say, t’s important to take bite-size steps rather than trying to do everything at once. Can you unpack that for us?

Lynn Jackson (12:41)

I am a precept girl. I love the word. I love to get out the commentaries. love that. But this is what I say. When we get the pleasure of doing that, we’re creating a Thanksgiving meal. Okay? So in our everyday lives, we have that as the ideal quiet time.

Candace Nassar (12:58)

Mm-hmm.

Lynn Jackson (13:05)

And we hear that,  you need to be in the word. So then we tell ourselves, well, if I can’t be in the word for an hour, it doesn’t count, so I’m not going to do it. But what we need, especially as moms, we need to create every day a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

Candace Nassar (13:22)

Hmm.

Lynn Jackson (13:23)

It has sweet and savory. It is full of protein and that’s what we need. You know, we can get encouraged from podcasts, we can get encouraged from sermons, we can get encouraged from songs, we can get encouraged from friends, but you will get strength from eating the Word of God. And I’m telling you, a peanut butter and jelly sandwich goes a long way.

Candace Nassar (13:42)

Mm.

Candace Nassar (13:47)

It sure does. It sure does. We survived on those a lot when my kids were young going to school. So, and I love you. You shared a quote from a Chinese pastor that says, it’s dangerous to learn truth faster than you can live it. What does that mean for us as believers?

Lynn Jackson (13:54)

Yes!

Lynn Jackson (14:06)

I think especially in our country we are bombarded with information. We have, how many Bibles in our homes. We have access to so much. But if a person, if a girl just reads one to four verses a day, you’re going to remember what you ate. If you’re eating…

You’re grabbing from all these different sources. You’re not even going to remember what you ate. How many of us remember what we ate for dinner last night? know, like we’ve food all around us. But if we will just discipline ourselves to do one verse a day. And this is what I tell weary women, a stay in the Psalms. When I was going through that hard time with Sarah, that literally was five years. And I said to my husband, I got to be a big girl and get out of the Psalms.

Candace Nassar (14:33)

Mm-hmm, right.

Candace Nassar (14:45)

Hmm.

Lynn Jackson (14:53)

This is what my seminary husband said, if God is meeting you there, you stay there. So if you are weary and just done the Psalms, let God minister to you in the Psalms and just little bite sized pieces so that you can digest it. You know, if you eat so much, you don’t even digest it. You don’t get the nutrients and you know, everything that you need. Does that answer?

Candace Nassar (14:58)

Hmm.

Candace Nassar (15:19)

Right. Yeah, no, I think that’s good. And I think, you know, how it hits me is that we tend to read sometimes and not reflect per se, right? And I think that’s really a key. that’s as we’re reading these bite-sized pieces and doing, I mean, there’s time for Bible study, but this is a practice, a daily practice that gives you the nourishment and the protein. And it forces you to do some

some reflection and to take it in in a different way. And so I think that’s part of of what what you’re saying to me.

Lynn Jackson (15:55)

Yes, and this, know, the one to four verses a day, this is how I survived our ongoing crisis that would not change. One to four verses. Now that I’m out of that, you know, and I’m studying in the Old Testament or the New Testament, I still end my time with one to four verses in the Psalms because, and I use the recipe because it does help me slow down and just think about spiritual food and what I’m eating and what I need to take. And the recipe, it’s like,

makes you slow down and eat a little bit and it gives you words to converse with God. I see it as dining with God, just like dining with a friend. And if you and I are sitting at the same table, eating the same food, and I’m like, Candace, this sushi. I’ve never eaten raw fish before. What are you, ooh, I don’t know if I wanna taste it. And you can, you know, so you go back and forth with God with that little bit of food that you’re dining with.

Candace Nassar (16:41)

Yes.

Lynn Jackson (16:54)

him and you talk about that and it helps to digest and get the nutrients and the strength to maneuver as a busy mom or a person in crisis or somebody who’s just stuck, you know, you’re just stuck.

Candace Nassar (17:01)

Mm-hmm.

Candace Nassar (17:10)

Okay, so I am, my appetite is so wet. Yes, bon appetit. I’m dying to talk about, okay, let’s dive in. give us just an overview. Walk us through the recipe. What tools are needed? What are the steps? Yeah.

Lynn Jackson (17:25)

You need your Bible, a composition book, a pen, a Webster dictionary, and a timer. And remember, the audience who I’m speaking to are the women who are too weary to open their Bible.

You’re opening your Bible and it’s dry as punk. You’re like I am getting nothing from this so at a weary place so I really focus on the Psalms and the best thing I can do is, I Looked at Psalm 40 this morning just in preparation for today. So can I give you an example just a quick example? Okay, so if we look I look at the Bible I caught God’s pantry and we are pulling ingredients

Candace Nassar (17:56)

Absolutely, please.

Lynn Jackson (18:05)

out of his pantry and putting it in different bowls or like ingredients on your kitchen counter, okay? So I make three columns and I write psalmist because that’s the author of the Psalms, you know, I’m not gonna get into that, slash Lynn. So you would write psalmist slash Candace in the first column. The second column I write God and the third column I would write enemy. 

And then I would look at a verse and I would pull out anything that would describe the believer, God, or enemy, what they’re capable of doing or feeling. And then what I pull out, I put in the present tense because you are trying to find food for today. You are trying to survive today with a God who never changes. So what he says in the Old Testament, in the New Testament, and how he acts today, it’s all the same. It’s the same God. The book of James says he never changes. So that’s why I put it in the present tense.

Candace Nassar (18:51)

Hmm.

Lynn Jackson (19:12)

So for instance, Psalm 40 verse one, I waited patiently for the Lord to help me and he turned to me and heard my cry. So I waited patiently, the believer who’s writing this, so under the column of Lynn, I would put waiting patiently. And then for the Lord to help me.

Candace Nassar (19:29)

Hmm.

Lynn Jackson (19:34)

Okay, so this implies that God can help me. He’s capable of helping me. So I put under the God column, helps me. And he turned to me. So I put under the God column, turns toward me. And heard my cry. I put under the God column, hears me. Put under my column, cry out to God.

Candace Nassar (19:43)

Hmm.

Lynn Jackson (20:01)

So I put the ingredients in those columns and then I choose maybe one word from one verse to look up in the Webster dictionary. I heard a preacher who I respect very much. He said the best theologians chose the very best English word that they could come up to to represent the Greek and Hebrew in your Bible.

Trust that word, especially when you’re making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for the day. So I used the Webster dictionary and I looked up the word turns to change in position of to move into a different position. when God hears me, I get his attention. He turns toward me.

Candace Nassar (20:27)

Mm-hmm.

Candace Nassar (20:39)

Hmm.

Candace Nassar (20:48)

Wow.

Lynn Jackson (20:48)

Wow, when I want to hear my toddler, I move my position and I come in closer. God is, the word says you hear me and you turn toward me. Here, I looked up here for Webster Dictionary, to listen to with favor. We forget all about, that reminds me of God’s heart. So I look up a couple of words and then,

I pray. I always start in the God column. I just want him to be first in everything. And that’s who I really want to learn about. And so I pray every word that I have written down. And I talk to God about it. It’s like dining. We’re talking about that sushi. We’re just talking about the sandwich, know, the ingredients it takes to make a sandwich. And I start out and I would say, I need your help. The word tells me that…

that you help me, that you help your people and I need you. Thank you that I have your attention. Thank you that you changed position for me. You hear my voice and you come closer. Help me believe that because right now I am too weary to even believe it. Will you encourage my spirit?

Candace Nassar (21L54)

Mm.

Lynn Jackson (22:02)

And then I move over to the Lend column, the Believer column, and I use that as a mirror. The Word talks about that, I think it’s in 2 Timothy, that God’s Word is used for correcting and rebuking and teaching and training. Well, I use this column to let the Word do that. And I use it as a mirror, and I’m like waiting patiently.

Am I waiting for God or am I just running all over the map looking for the right doctor and exhausting myself? Am I waiting patiently or am I stomping my foot while I wait? Or am I angry while I wait? You know, so it’s just, I just talked to God about that. God, I’m trying to wait, but show me the balance of waiting and helping my daughter.

Candace Nassar (22:29)

Mm. Mm.

Lynn Jackson (22:49)

I just don’t even know anymore. I’m too exhausted. Then you take God’s word, you have conversation with him and you fold your real life in with this real God until you don’t have any words left. And then you set a timer for two minutes and you just sit there. And you sit there in his lap.

Lynn Jackson (23:11)

and you’re quiet and you just sit. And I wait until the timer goes and then I think, what is like one or two words from all this time that I spent being in the words, talking to God, being quiet, what’s one word or maybe up to three words that would remind me of my time with God? So I probably would write the word turns on a three by five card. I write it.

below my thumb on my hand. But if your mama taught you not to write on your Bible, then you write on your body, then you write on a three by five card someplace where you’re going to see it. You’re washing dishes and you see the word turns. like, help me believe your attention. Or I’m driving the car and I see it written on my hand. It’s like, thank you, God, that you hear me. Thank you that you turn toward me that you hear me. And I call that a protein bite.

Candace Nassar (23:41

you

Candace Nassar (23:51)

No. No. No.

Candace Nassar (24:03)

Yes.

Lynn Jackson (24:04)

and it will strengthen your spirit throughout the day just like when you get physically tired you get a spoonful of peanut butter to get some energy for the next thing. You know, this will give you, it’s a spiritual protein bite that’s going to give you the energy to do the next thing as you hold God’s hand. So in a nutshell, that’s the recipe.

Candace Nassar (24:26)

So, gosh, Lynn, I can’t, first of all, you got all of that out of that one verse and just by slowing down and following what you said, and then that just fed, you just fed me. So I really thank you for that. And just the Holy Spirit led you to do that. it makes me realize that that’s just, it doesn’t take a lot, right?

Lynn Jackson (24:40)

you

Candace Nassar (24:53)

for the whole time start to finish. How long do you think that would, your recipe takes?

Lynn Jackson (24:58)

Well, this is where I tell people you will learn the pace of your soul because some days you can only digest one verse. And I encourage women, don’t go beyond four verses. And I know that sounds sacrilegious and some people may be just throwing right out of church, but you can only digest so much, especially when you’re weary.

And honestly, that little process could take you anywhere from 10 minutes to 30 minutes, depending how much you have to unpack out of your little heart. You know?

Candace Nassar (25:31)

It’s so filling. It really is. that’s, know, if you do it, it doesn’t matter when you do it. I mean, we say it’s great to do it in the morning, but I’m thinking of our listeners who, some of them have little kids that get up before they do, and it’s just really hard. But there’s nothing more important you can do in your day than to feed your soul and draw closer to God. And this clearly, clearly…

Lynn Jackson (25:49)

Mm-hmm

Candace Nassar (25:57)

does that and I love how in the recipe the book is the first part of it is your story then you explain the recipe you model it for us which you say you invite us into your kitchen to watch you do it and so you make it really clear on how to do it and then you give us basically a workbook on how to begin doing it on our own to practice it. Do you see could this be done in a community of some sort or really

Lynn Jackson (26:03)

Mm-hmm.

Lynn Jackson (26:17)

Thank

Mm-hmm.

Lynn Jackson (26:26)

yes. I have women who have used it in their Sunday school class. I’ve had women who have used it a small group.

one-on-one. I share it on a napkin across, you know, in a restaurant. Yeah, it’s a recipe. It’s a recipe to share and you can share it in any format. And I love to do workshops on it. I love to visit churches or women’s ministries and do workshops on it. It’s a recipe to be shared and you can, you know, back in the day I would turn on Mr. Rogers and hi, you you can turn something on for

kids and just sit on the floor under the dining room table if you have to disappear. You know you’re still there but they can’t see you. Or if you’re working your lunch break sitting out in the car. Like this is a doable. You’re making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Walk through the Bible did a survey and they came up with if you were in the word

Four days, if you have an encounter with the word four days a week or more, your life decisions will line up with God’s ways. If you have an encounter less than four days a week, your life decisions probably mirror the world’s.

Candace Nassar (27:40)

Hmm. Wow.

Lynn Jackson (27:42)

So this is what I tell women, do this at least four times a week. And if you can’t even do a fresh verse in the book, I talk about leftovers.

Listen, my daughter just had a baby. I went and spent 10 days with her just to help her get adjusted to two. Girl, I didn’t open up my Bible. I ate leftovers the whole time. And I was reminded how hard it is with moms for moms with young children. 

So I just went back in my, I have a composition book and I just went back and I ate leftovers of what I did the day before or last week. And sometimes I could, I only had the time to go look at the God column and be reminded, he helps, he turns, hears. And that was my food for the day. But, you know, and sometimes leftovers taste better than the first time around. You know? So this is a very doable recipe.

Candace Nassar (28:26)

Yeah.

Candace Nassar (28:30)

That is so true. So good. I can see it and I am anxious to get started. It’s definitely something that I need for sure. And starting a new year and getting into that just sounds perfect. So do you have any stories from readers or people that have especially encouraged you that you could share with us?

Lynn Jackson (28:53)

I sight

Honestly, I hear from women all the time. It’s just, it blows me away. It blows me away. So I tried to find just a few for this morning. One is a gal, her father passed away in 2017 and grief has just gripped her so much she hasn’t been able to open her Bible. And so she tried the recipe. I encourage her to try the recipe. And she said she had gotten into a place of seeing God.

as not active, just passive. He was a passive God. And doing the recipe reminded her that he is an active God. And I don’t know what verses she was doing, but she was reminded that he is kind. I think it, grief had just rocked her to sleep.

And I think that the recipe was starting to wake up her spirit a little bit, you know, to God. So those words were powerful. have another friend and she, you know, she always read through the Bible every year, read through the Bible every year. And she did the recipe and she was like, I can’t believe how much food I got out of one verse. Because she was getting burnt out. She was just burnt out. She’s like a scholar and she was getting burnt out. And she was like, this has totally changed the way I

and read the Bible. Another mom, she has three children and her husband was struggling with cancer. She was spending more time in the hospital than at home, gave her the recipe and it just breathed life and encouragement into her. Yeah, yeah, I mean it’s just story after story after story. Another mom, I’m glad that I can give this tool to my children.

Candace Nassar (30:24)

Gosh.

Lynn Jackson (30:34)

a tool for life instead of just throwing them another Bible study to do. Like, I was like, you know,

Candace Nassar (30:38)

Mm, yes, that’s so good. You know, this is just precious. And I just thank you so much for sharing your recipe with all of us, because it’s really, really powerful and you have just a gift. And so I know that your heart is for these mamas that are just starving.

Lynn Jackson (30:49)

You

Candace Nassar (31:02)

And just can you leave us with something? What would you say to the mom who is just so overwhelmed and stretched thin right now? How can, you know, what would you encourage her to get started with this?

Lynn Jackson (31:16)

I would encourage her to do just one verse at a time using the recipe. And if she can digest more, then do more, but don’t go beyond four verses. And you’re gonna be reminded how much God loves you and how engaged he wants to be in your life.

And I would imagine that you probably have failure stamped over your forehead because you’re looking in the corner at all the Bible studies you’ve started and you haven’t finished. But he has the word beloved stamped on your heart. He knows who you are and he’s just waiting to dine with you. He’s waiting to share a peanut butter and jelly sandwich with you. yeah, just be encouraged. Just be encouraged. Yeah.

Candace Nassar (32:01)

Mm, so good.

I love your heart so much and it’s just been such a blessing to talk to you today. I’m gonna put the links to the recipe in the show notes. Is there any other way that our listeners can get in touch with you?

Lynn Jackson (32:19)

You can get the book on Amazon, just type in the recipe, Lynn Jackson. Thriveleadership.org is our ministry website. And honestly, I love women. I love to encourage women and if anybody would want me to come and do a workshop, it would be my delight. It would be my delight. Because you know what, I see women and they come and their eyes are like there’s no light and they’re hollow and it’s where’s the joy? And we actually pick a verse apart together in a workshop and it’s just like they have their head down working and they look up.

And there’s just like light in their eyes and a smile on their face. It’s so beautiful to every time. It never gets old. It’s just so lovely. And it is the joy of sharing just a yummy recipe. can’t wait for you to take a bite, you know? So if there’s any way can help you take a bite, just contact me.

Candace Nassar (33:07)

Yeah.

Candace Nassar (33:12)

Yes, so good.

Candace Nassar (33:18)

Beautiful. Well, thank you again, Lynn. You are a blessing. Appreciate you.

Lynn Jackson (33:24)

thank you for having me. This is a new world I’m stepping into. So thank you for being so warm and kind and just loving Jesus like you do, Candace, and loving these women. You love them, I can tell. So thank you. Okay.

Candace Nassar (33:36)

Thank you, dear. Talk to you soon.

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